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3:33 am
August 17, 2010
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Hi friends,
Friendly than Windows is Linux?
Please share your idea.
9:07 am
September 17, 2008
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You've joking right? I'm no lame duck, but Linux is NOT a walk in the park. It's more old school (helps when you know a programming language) and NOT what the modern mouse click generation is used too, Mindblower!
5:27 pm
August 9, 2011
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Sorry Sithum but I have to agree with Mindblower on this one. Most users do not want to have to use command line for even the simplest of operations.
Linux does have its advantages….being user friendly is [i:lryog3kn]not[/i:lryog3kn] one of them!!
Cheers….Jim
5:45 pm
October 4, 2010
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Linux distro(s) is not a user friendly. If you throw Mac OS and Ubuntu to me. I will take Mac any day. And I dislike apple product.
11:45 am
November 12, 2008
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A lot of the people that I know are afraid of their computers. Many don't know how to cut & paste. A person called me recently to get me to walk them through how to save a file from the internet to a USB drive. I am not bashing all Windows users. I still use XP some. A lot of the reason that people don't know more about how to do things with their computer is that computers don't nterest them.
Linux takes some reading and research but so does Windows. Most people turn on their computer and if it doesn't look like it did the last time they checked their email, got on Facebook or Twitter, then they are lost. I dare say that a great majority of home computers (windows of course) are never defragged, no files are cleaned out, and the command line has never been used. The dust inside just collects until something fries or quits. Then they go get another one.
Linux has become my main OS for the last 5 years. I am retired and check out new distros quite often. My favorite for a long time was Mepis. I still like it but have also been using a Ubuntu derivative for several months. If a person wants to try a Linux distro and they can't get started with either Ubuntu, Mepis, or PCLOS, then they need to stay with Windows.
my 2 cents,
4:19 pm
August 9, 2011
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Hey Harold – Couldn't agree more with your assessment mate….spot on!!
I am by no means a computer 'expert' but I am no beginner either; I've owned a computer of one type or another since around 1980 and am very familiar with operating systems and well versed in the technicalities. However, trying out Linux distros (mainly Ubuntu & Kubuntu) has always been a source of frustration for me. My main issue is with the heavy reliance on command line, even for the simplest of operations. I found myself needing to continually hook up to forums for advice on command line syntax.
There is no doubt in my mind I could master it in time but, quite frankly, I don't have the patience (nor the will, I guess)…. plus, of course, good ol' Windows is always there.
I have written much on the reasons Linux has not been more successful, why it has not been accepted by the masses and still retains only a pitifully minor market share….. and what the developers need to do to rectify the situation. Suffice to say; the diversification of distros and fragmented development strategy, the heavy reliance on command line and lack of a more intuitive and comprehensive user interface, plus a poor and fragmented marketing strategy are, in my opinion, the main contributors.
It's a shame really because I do like Linux and believe it has the potential to be a major player.
Much respect and kudos to you for successfully making the transition mate.
Cheers now….Jim
5:51 pm
August 11, 2011
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I for one do not believe that Linux is a viable Desktop Operating System at this time. Ubuntu is close, and making strides to getting there, but at this point, I don't see it.
Like Jim, nearly everything I do in Linux requires command line interaction. It's rare that changing a setting allows me to just change the setting without requiring me to go restart a service manually or, worse, reboot entirely. Linux has a long way to go on the desktop before I recommend it to average computer users.
Windows or Mac – the UI is at least polished looking enough to be usable without much training.
On the server side, Linux can't be beat. It suffers a little bit on the Active Directory (domain) integration side of things, but even that has gotten better. As an administrator of both Linux and Windows servers, I much prefer working on the Linux servers. While it takes some specific knowledge, and it requires lots of command line interaction, but that's ok – it provides job security. 
6:08 pm
November 12, 2008
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I forgot to add to my earlier post….
I am definitely not a computer expert and know very little about networking and servers. I have two computers at home that I dual/multi-boot. They aren't even networked because I don't take the time to try and learn what I need to know to do it. One is an older standby, just in case the main one crashes.
What I didn't put in my earlier post is that I use the command line very little. Of course, because of the above paragraph, I rarely have the need to. I realize the power of the command line but had rather do things in the gui. Usually if I need to do something from the command line, by the time I run down (search the web) the commands I have forgotten what I wanted to do in the first place. I do use the CL sometimes but usually copy and paste the commands someone else has written.
I have some useful CL stuff that I printed out and put on my office wall.
6:20 pm
August 9, 2011
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[quote:3jpikyyj]Usually if I need to do something from the command line, by the time I run down (search the web) the commands I have forgotten what I wanted to do in the first place[/quote:3jpikyyj]
LOL…now that sounds very familiar. 
It's one of the aspects of Linux (and Ubuntu in particular) I do not understand Harold; with the use of command line being so integral, why is there not a comprehensive list of the most often used commands available anywhere? If I were trying to garner acceptance for my distro (i.e. Ubuntu) I would make sure such a list was readily available for all and sundry.
Cheers….Jim
6:54 pm
August 11, 2011
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[quote="ozbloke":11kpv440] If I were trying to garner acceptance for my distro (i.e. Ubuntu) I would make sure such a list was readily available for all and sundry.
Cheers….Jim[/quote:11kpv440]
Or fix the GUI to completely eliminate the CL?
I do wish the Windows CL was a bit more….robust than it is.
7:05 pm
November 12, 2008
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I hesitate to even mention this but…
I have almost never gotten anything useful from a man page. To me and a lot of people they were written by geeks for geeks. Just saying. No offense intended.
7:11 pm
August 9, 2011
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Again…..agree 100% Harold.
So please tell us:
I see you are running a dual boot system with Linux and XP. What do you specifically use Linux for (to do)? And what do you use XP for? How would you describe your usage on each OS, as a percentage (e.g. 50/50)?
Cheers….Jim
8:10 pm
August 11, 2011
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[quote="houndhen":3q4wo5r9]I hesitate to even mention this but…
I have almost never gotten anything useful from a man page. To me and a lot of people they were written by geeks for geeks. Just saying. No offense intended.[/quote:3q4wo5r9]
I agree with you too. The 'uber geeks' who tell you to go RTFM (read the fantastic manual) assume you speak geek already.
There is a school of thought that says if you can't program a computer you shouldn't use one. Of course, that's like saying if you can't build a car you shouldn't drive one….
11:02 pm
July 23, 2011
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[quote="Mindblower":j059cqrj]You've joking right? I'm no lame duck, but Linux is NOT a walk in the park. It's more old school (helps when you know a programming language) and NOT what the modern mouse click generation is used too, Mindblower![/quote:j059cqrj]
Spoken like a person who has never used Linux.
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